#human transmutation

[somesonofabitch]

Fma or fmab au idea that I thought was neat

When Trisha was pregnant, she was so excited cause she and Van weren’t sure they’d be able to conceive due to Van’s “condition”. However she begins to miscarry and Van either uses his philosopher stone (09) or injects Trisha’s uterus with red water (03) in an effort to save the life of their unborn child.

Edward is born healthy, but with the mark of the ouroboros on the side of his head. They agree that they will never tell him or anyone what the mark is or why. They make a big deal about him not cutting his hair so he never sees the mark.

After Al is born perfectly fine, and they notice how fast Al is growing compared to Ed. Van is worried that his intervention in saving Ed’s life has stripped him of his humanity. He worries that Ed, like Van, will not be able to live a normal life, growing old and dying like a normal human, so he takes off to search for a way to fix his son.

It’s not until Ed uses himself as a Philosopher Stone in Baschool that he begins to think something is wrong with him. And by the time he reappears, he’s shaved the side of his head to reveal the truth.

[sxodnir]

In the fiery pits of the underworld, where desire burned as hot as the molten lava, a demon named Sxodnir strutted through the crowded streets of his domain, his six-pack abs rippling with every step. He was known as the ultimate demon himbo, a creature of unparalleled beauty and charm, whose sole purpose was to indulge in the pleasures of the flesh. His eyes, a smoldering shade of red, scanned the throngs of demons and damned souls, seeking someone new to satiate his ever-growing hunger for transformation. His gaze fell upon a human male, Adrian, who had stumbled into this infernal realm by mistake, his body trembling with fear and awe at the sight of the leather-clad demon before him. Sxodnir's smile grew wide, revealing sharp, gleaming fangs. He had found his next plaything.

Adrian, a muscular and handsome mortal with a penchant for adventure, had always been drawn to the supernatural. Little did he know that his curiosity would lead him to this fateful encounter with the demonic embodiment of temptation. Frozen in place, he watched as Sxodnir sauntered over, his tail swishing playfully behind him. The demon's touch sent a jolt of electricity through Adrian's body, igniting a spark of curiosity and lust that he had never felt before.

Sxodnir leaned in, his breath hot against Adrian's neck, whispering sweet nothings in a language that seemed to resonate within the human's very soul. His fingers traced the outline of Adrian's jaw, leaving a trail of warmth that sent shivers down his spine. "I can give you everything you've ever desired," Sxodnir murmured, "every power, every pleasure. All you have to do is let me in."

The human's resolve wavered. He had never been one to turn down a challenge, especially one that came wrapped in such a tempting package. With a gasp, Adrian nodded, unable to resist the siren's call of the demon's offer. And so, the transformation began.

The air grew thick with an intoxicating scent of brimstone and lust as Sxodnir's hand slid down Adrian's chest. His touch grew more insistent, his nails digging in just enough to sting. The human felt his body begin to morph, his muscles bulging and stretching in ways that defied human limits, his skin darkening to a deep, almost metallic shade of red. His eyes grew wider, pupils dilating with arousal as his mind swirled with images of the pleasures that awaited him as one of Sxodnir's kind.

Sxodnir's lips met Adrian's, and their tongues danced together in a fiery tango. The demon's cock, a monstrous and beautiful thing, grew to impossible proportions, straining against his leather pants. Adrian felt his own body respond in kind, his human form giving way to something more... more powerful, more primal. As they kissed, the demon's essence seeped into the human, reshaping him from the inside out.

Their bodies entwined, Sxodnir's massive cock found its way to Adrian's tight, untouched hole. The human moaned with a mix of fear and anticipation as the demon's thick, pulsing member breached the barrier that separated him from his new life. With a single, powerful thrust, Sxodnir claimed him, filling Adrian with his transformative seed. The human's body convulsed, muscles clenching around the demon's shaft as he was flooded with an intensity of pleasure that was almost too much to bear.

With every pump of his hips, Sxodnir's power grew within Adrian. The human felt his body stretching, his cock lengthening and thickening, his balls swelling with a newfound vitality. His humanity slipped away, replaced by a fiery passion that could never be quenched. He was no longer Adrian, the mortal, but something more... something demonic.

As the transformation reached its peak, the room was bathed in a crimson light, and the air was thick with the scent of sex and power. Sxodnir's moans grew louder, his giant cock kept thrusting in Adrian's ass, with one final push, Sxodnir's cock erupted with a lot of demon himbo cum and the transformation of Adrian is complete.

Sxodnir leans in and whispers "Now you are mine forever, you will do as told and you will go forth and bring more to me my boy" and all Adrian can do is nod and say "Yes my Master".

[dfwbwfbbwfbwf]

Human Transmutation Success Rate

I've been rewatching FMAB lately, and there's a line in it that really piqued my interest. When discussing potential sacrifice candidates, one of the generals mentioned Kimblee and that he didn't "have the nerve" to attempt human transmutation.

That struck me as strange. Out of everyone, Kimblee gives me "does human transmutation just for the fun and chaos" vibes. Why wouldn't he do it?

Well, there's probably a large chance of death.

There are only five known people who ... "successfully" performed human transmutation.

Izumi Curtis

Jude

Edward Elric

Alphonse Elric

Roy Mustang

(Not putting Hohenheim here cause he TECHNICALLY didn't do human transmutation.)

All five of them lost something as a toll, something cruelly ironic to the situation.

Izumi - lost her womb trying to bring back her son

Jude - lost his eyes, desperate to see his Rosalie again

Edward - lost his leg and ability to be truly independent, as well as his brother - his only family within reach

Alphonse - lost his body, his humanity in a way

Roy - lost his sight, unable to see his future

I wonder if human transmutation is ... not common, but not necessarily uncommon. Especially since Father did his best to create a setting of chaos and grief to drive people to try it. Clearly, there are those who tried and survived while remaining undiscovered, such as Jude, but there were rumors about him.

I wonder how many alchemists made the attempt and lost something vital enough to kill them immediately. Their lungs. A head. All their limbs. Their brain. Something.

I wonder what Kimblee would've lost if he'd tried. His heart? He's not using it anyway. ... Probably not. I'd say his sanity, but he never had any.

HIS HEARING!

That would be his toll. The man who relished in the sounds of his chaos forced into a world of silence.

[sauljudgeman]

It's almost 12 am but I wanted to say happy October 3rd! Will always have a special place for Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood in my heart, and I have ever since I first watched it in 2019 :)

[aprivateplace7]

U know... why can everyone tell that Ed & Al committed the taboo? Like if losing limbs was a know side effect then why didn't the Elrics know that? It seemed like they just knew it was forbidden but not why...

I mean, no one rly knew of them but Barry & the Slicer bros were also in armor & they didn't commit the taboo. And plenty of ppl loose limbs in normal ways all the time...

Was it a combo of those 2 that made it obvious? Its just so strange how often at the beginning of the series, someone finds out about Al & just knows... maybe its because they're alchemists?

Its just... weird. How can so many ppl look at them & just know, if human transmutation is supposed to be so secret that any research on it is closely guarded or destroyed.

[the-cooler-king]

Edward: Your secrets up, Dante.

Dante: When did you find out, fair son of Hohenheim?

Edward: So, it's all true?

Dante: Indeed, every last word.

Edward: So, how many times have you jumped bodies?

Dante: Well, in four hundred years you can lose count. It's less than ten, after all I had to use the philospher's stone each time.

Edward: And that's what happened to this city? Lives for the stone?

Dante: Don't forget the fabled, lost civilization in the East - it was the same. But I'm not the one who made it happen.

Edward: No, it was Hohenheim of Light.

Dante: You say it so formally. Why don't you just call him 'Dad'?

Edward: Did he live this way, too? Stealing bodies, creating wars - and for what purpose?

Dante: Because we were worth it.

Edward: What the hell's that supposed to mean? You ruined thousands of lives to create each philosopher's stone - then you take it for yourself so you can live longer. And you actually think that's justified?

Dante: Humans can't handle the stone.

Edwars: Right. So you have the mercy to take it from them - the grace to kill anyone who was involved so only the legend remains.

Dante: I'm glad you understand so well. Humans are controlled by their sins - and the philosopher's stone has power far greater than any weapon ever forged before. So I've taken cities - humans would destroy the world. The lives lost have been necessary martyrs, saving mankind from itself. I am the guardian - the shepard of sins. I have to live on, to prevent you humans from doing something foolish with the stone.

Edward: Don't kid yourself - you're human just like us!

Dante: Not. Anymore.

[lizards-can-be-bookmarks]

I made a transmutation circle for my little brothers 10th birthday, how'd I do?

[dumpster-of-the-lost-souls]

FMA fandom I had a thought

so as the title says I had a thought about Fullmetal Alchemist specifically human transmutation. I had the thought wouldn't it be possible to actually succeed with it under very specific circumstances. such as the body being healed of its fatal damage and the time between death and the transmutation being relatively short only a few minutes or so.

My thought being is that to rebind the soul to the body you would need to give something up like a leg, or with my thought wouldn't a soul be worth another soul?

the basic idea is using the murderer's soul as a trade giving up a soul to receive a soul back. there would still probably still have to be a toll on the Alchemist's part but do you all think this would even work?

[kora634]

(For legal reasons this is a joke and shall not be take seriously)

Top three ways of solving overpopulation:

[elles-home]

the differences in portrayal of human transmutation across media is so interesting to me. i have not yet watched dungeon meshi so i cant comment on it but in one piece, not only is human transmutation and cloning possible, it is done and used for the exact purpose they wanted to create humans in the first place in fma; indispensable supply of soldiers. additionally, they appear to be completely sentient and have free will as well

fma: human transmutation is bad!! There is no equivalent exchange for human life >:(

dungeon meshi: how much meat ya got?

[sunflowersandcherryblossoms]

Ah!

So, there it is!

In detail!

The mist completely dissipates and there absolutely no human body and no one even close to Ichigo.

So, where did his body go?

[rochenn]

Codywan is so Royai coded tbh no wonder ppl keep tripping into shipping it. Granted it's the walmart version bc the average official Star Wars writer could not touch Hiromu Arakawa if they tried but it sure is the same flavor

[sleepydross]

[wickedcriminal]

Consider

[lonelypep]

i wasn’t expecting dungeon meshi to go into black magic human transmutation bullshit this episode but here we are

[fullmetal-scar-simping]

I really think father and hohenheim should have been the same character? I mean, father is such a bland villain. Maybe I just haven't looked enough but I haven't seen even the most hardcore bh fans talk about him? It's all just about how ed punched god or whatever. No one's actually interested in the guy himself. I can think of several ways them being the same person would make it a lot more interesting, at least to me. I mean, first of all ed and al having to fight their own shitty father is some delicious angst. Second I really like the mad scientist type character and that's what hoho would be in that scenario. Third I think it would be fun to analyse the "sins" he took out of himself if he was a human to begin with. Ohh and come to think of it, it would go really well with Ed's whole "alchemists are the closest things to God yadda yadda" speech in the beginning wouldn't it? Honestly I can't think of any reason why they had to be different people at all...Ah, except how can I forget. Arakawa's writing this. Of course they have to be two different people. One who actually did all the wrong things and the loving father and husband who's going around trying to make everything right(nevermind that he left Trisha to care for their 4-5 yos all alone with no support. Nuh uh he's perfect) If she held the fact that the two can in fact be the same person it might just explode her world. I'm rolling my eyes.

Father and Hohenheim as the same character? Who is a mad scientist? Who as a result reimburses Ed's pompous "Alchemists are the closest things to god"? Blends aspects of being an unforgivable monster with having loved his family? I've got your guy!

🎉Hohenheim of Light!🎉

Oh sure, he's not the final big bad that the Elric bros have to fight, and sure he's more of a retired villain who's mildly penitent for his centuries of bloodshed, rather than continuing to enact widespread destruction. But we do get to see the results of all his transgressions against humanity and his own first son too! So, 🎉 ta-da! 🎉

To actually address your ask:

Besides what 03 had already done, for awhile I actually thought Father WAS Hohenheim in Brotherhood.

To clarify: I avoided the online fandom from 2009 onward in order to prevent getting spoiled for the (at the time) new fma adaptation. I kept putting off watching it for well over a decade (lol), and for no other reason then a combo of 1) not being in the mood for more fma, and 2) when I was, I would immediately run right back to fma 03 without fail, and then be so thoroughly satisfied with revisiting a long time fave that I just. Would put off watching Broho for another time.

Still, being online in any capacity meant that every once in awhile I was unavoidably being exposed to the odd screenshot, text post, and fanart. No big deal, nothing really spoiled anything heavily enough for me to know the full story, and I could easily scroll away before making sense out of anything.

But I did one day stumble into a screenshot of Father glowering in his underground throne. And here I thought "Oh shit! Hohenheim is actually in full villain mode this time around?! We're going to actually explore the mass annihilation he commits for philosopher stones and how his sons will have to contend with their own father. This will surely dig even deeper into Ed and Al's heel turn against the military, and what alchemy means as a method of power and control. Man, this is gonna fuck!"

lol

lmao even

So to my now endless disappointment I finally watched Brotherhood this last spring. And although I surprisingly liked* this affable, bumbling, rather tragic version of Hohenheim (which stumps me, given my initial assumption for Brotherhood AND being a long time Hohenheim of Light enjoyer) (I still like Hoho of Light more tho), Father was such a fucking let down on every front.

*Don't get me wrong, I'm not claiming Von Hohenheim didn't do wrong against Trisha and his kids. As much as he had to build the anti-circle around Amestris, it doesn't erase the fact that Trisha had to shoulder the full burden of raising their kids, and child Ed's sense of abandonment and outrage against him is highly warranted.

Even keeping Father as a homunculus that duplicates Hohenheim's appearance, he still could have been an interesting character and villain. But every step of the way he was just the obvious big bad mostly relegated to the background, stored away except for a few key encounters and flashbacks. He was paper thin, an easy excuse for why the core ills of Amestris are all his exclusive fault, and conveniently the canon has an in-baked reason for why he has the personality and stage presence of cardboard. Woo. hoo.

God the lore and function of homunculi blows in mangahood. At the very least make me actually feel like they are parts of this once former-cyclops in a bottle! And still make Father an actually compelling character! In fact the other homunculi could have potentially been an effective vehicle for that, but noooooo-

Honestly, I agree. It would have been so much more affecting for Hohenheim and Father to be one, singular character. Of course much of his backstory would have to change, but that's not a loss in my hater's opinion. The implications for the Elrics, for their paradigms to be entirely torn asunder and have to be rebuilt in order to survive and make sense out of their position in Amestris, it would have been juicy.

You're right, I have seen next to no deeper interest or investment into Father as a character and as a narrative device from hardcore fans either. I'm sure it does exist, given Brotherhood's immense popularity, but damn if we can be forgiven for getting the impression that most fans just don't give a rat's unseasoned ass. I see more posts and fanart for Von Hohenheim than I do Father lol

Mangahood simply can't have (or actually address) any truly murky topics, or depict messy and complex characterization, if it doesn't ultimately shine the brightest, most admirable, most absolving light on our protags as possible. So why would Von Hohenheim have anything to do with Father besides having been his victim?

We remain starved by the emaciated, sorry excuse for 'pathos' that is Father's whole deal. What a shame.